“The war ended and, in June of 1957, I was mustarded out.
“Now, when I had gone in, I had taken the examination to work for IBM. In those days, they thought that to work for IBM, you had to be a mathematician or a musician. Apparently, those two fields made IBM think you could learn to program, which in those days was the important thing besides being a salesman.
“And when I got home in May or June, 1957, I told the IBM guy that I was ever so happy to be home and I never wanted to leave Denver again. He halted the interview and explained to me that, with IBM, if you didn’t travel to do a new job in another place, you wouldn’t get promoted and you would be let go. So that destroyed my notion of working for IBM and I decided to take the GI Bill and go for an advanced degree.”